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Contribution and Database Accuracy Improvement (Locked)
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AdulteratedJedi
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bet you it wont 

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MarkEJHarrison
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Quoting Ken Cole:
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Under Development
  • Private message functionality on the website will be added so that users may communicate regarding contributions directly



  • I don't know if this would be simple to implement, but it would be nice to have this tied to a feature to lock out contributors.  So if someone keeps uploading crap, and he gets multiple messages from users, but never reads those messages, his contribution priviledges are revoked.

    If there's no consequences for ignoring private messages, it will be a useless feature.
    "the main database is protected by many fanatics who argue minutia over the rules hour after hour, day after day, year after year" - Cliff
    Dan W
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    Knowing what is in the queue can help a great deal but without better reviewing on the IVS end none of this means a thing.

    I realize the reviewers do not have the discs in hand so, by design, they have no way to check accuracy. Additionally, if there is no note, the reviewer has even less of an idea of the information in the contribution. Therefore, I strongly back the "no note, no pass" rule and feel the "no note" contributions should automatically be rejected. The sooner this is implemented the better.

    I feel that the use of bots in the profile approval process is a bad idea unless they are used to weed out the obvious before a real person reviews the profile. A bot cannot "see" an image! Nor can it make "judgement" calls. Used as "pre-approval" tools, bots can be very useful in reducing overhead and this only makes good sense.

    A user review board can help a great deal when there is a question on a particular profile. If a user review board is planned I feel that only users with the DVD in question should participate in the debate on the issue with that profile.

    Since the locks are being enhanced on the IVS end, can the next version of DVD Profiler have an indicator within the profile that shows which fields are locked on the IVS end?
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    ruineddaydreams
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    count me in for the vote on - no notes = instant rejection

    also, i agree with dan on the bot front - a good start would be, there are some studios on the db, that simply don't exist - skip could furnish a full list im sure, but if someone is putting "walt disney" in, maybe there could be some form of auto-correct to change it to Walt Disney Pictures - etc.

    also, i think we need a dvdp 2.3.2 asap, which adresses some contribution wise issues that should not be too hard to add in... off the top of my head

  • locks for all fields that do not have them already

  • link to contribution notes from the comparrison screen, so we can see the notes and then decide to accept or decline

  • copy/paste crew

  • updated help file / contribution guidlines, that go into great detail on things such as studios, genre wars, crew, etc.



  • also, i think i would reccomend that once you get more then on contribution for a single title, maybe one should be picked, instead of combining info - that may help the quality control, even tho logic says you could do the best by taking the best parts of some, in practical use and in high volume, the best should just be chosen.

    oh.. and ken... im hoping your reading the responces to this thread... PLEASE FORCE THROUGH SKIP'S SUBMISSION FOR THE INDIVUDAL STAR WARS MOVIES FROM THE TRILOGY SET - that being in the update alone will at least have everyone say one nice thing as they comment (p.s. i only say skip's because i know they are 100% accurate... and then everyone who want's it to say a differant production year can do that... that's what i did)
    -JoN

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    AdulteratedJedi
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    Skips star wars contribs have now been accepted   

    AJ
    ruineddaydreams
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    not that i can see AJ - the cover art is not online, and it wasnt in my list...
    -JoN

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    Paul Hillenbrand
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    # Contributions submitted without notes now post into the contribution notes forum with an appropriate comment (Implemented Feb 3)
    This sounds good, but what does it mean?  Will this show the name of the contrubutor? Give the contributor a warning? ??

    Paul
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    Knowing what is in the queue can help a great deal but without better reviewing on the IVS end none of this means a thing.

    I realize the reviewers do not have the discs in hand so, by design, they have no way to check accuracy.

    It's more than just a view-only system.  You also can indicate whether you believe the contributed profile is a good change or no.  This information will heavily influence the evaluator's decisions.
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    I feel that the use of bots in the profile approval process is a bad idea unless they are used to weed out the obvious before a real person reviews the profile.

    We use bots for this very reason now.
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    PLEASE FORCE THROUGH SKIP'S SUBMISSION FOR THE INDIVUDAL STAR WARS MOVIES FROM THE TRILOGY SET

    This has already been done and is in queue for the next datatbase update (next Wed).
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    count me in for the vote on - no notes = instant rejection

    This has already been added to the list of enhancements in the first post.  It will be implemented in 2.3.2.
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    ruineddaydreams
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    NICE - AWESOME KEN!

    -JoN

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    gadgeteer
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    Great Stuff Ken.

    Things are on the up. 
    Stuart
    m.cellophane
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    Very cool. Thanks, Ken et al.

    Quoting Ken Cole:
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  • This section will also show the contributions in queue, with the option to vote yea or nay on each.

  • Who's doing the voting here? I'm confused. 
    ...James

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    MarkEJHarrison
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    Quoting jlproffitt:
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    Who's doing the voting here? I'm confused. 


    As I understand it, we're doing the voting. 
    "the main database is protected by many fanatics who argue minutia over the rules hour after hour, day after day, year after year" - Cliff
    m.cellophane
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    Quoting MarkEJHarrison:
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    As I understand it, we're doing the voting. 

    Excellent! Thanks, Mark. 
    ...James

    "That's it. He's definitely the one. Now it's just a matter of time before he becomes a drop of blood in my glass slide collection."  Dexter
    Dan W
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    Quoting Ken Cole:
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    Knowing what is in the queue can help a great deal but without better reviewing on the IVS end none of this means a thing.

    I realize the reviewers do not have the discs in hand so, by design, they have no way to check accuracy.

    It's more than just a view-only system.  You also can indicate whether you believe the contributed profile is a good change or no.  This information will heavily influence the evaluator's decisions.

    I haven't tried it out yet but I'm guessing that you are telling us that we can presently go into the contrbution notes and add a post telling what we like and dislike about the profile in the queue without submitting the profile. Am I understanding you correctly here?


    Quoting Ken Cole:
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    I feel that the use of bots in the profile approval process is a bad idea unless they are used to weed out the obvious before a real person reviews the profile.

    We use bots for this very reason now.
    That's encouraging. Your earlier post was a bit vague and I was afraid that the bots were doing more.


    Quoting Ken Cole:
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    count me in for the vote on - no notes = instant rejection

    This has already been added to the list of enhancements in the first post.  It will be implemented in 2.3.2.
    Thank you.
    Dan W

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    abrg923
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    Registered: October 12, 2004
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    So in reality, we the users ARE in part determining what profiles do and don't get accepted...I love it.

    For those who will inevitably ask, Ken stated in chat that all these changes will be implemented within the next four weeks.
    Ross

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