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MtnMike
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Registered: March 16, 2002
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Quoting Dan W:
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I will add, I think that

ONLY THOSE WITH THAT PARTICULAR DVD WITH THAT UPC SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO VOTE!

If you don't have it keep your comments to yourself.


I agree with you on that point but I don't see that its an enforcable rule.

Especially in those rare cases where you may be the only person who owns that particular one.
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KevinJ
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Registered: March 22, 2001
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Quoting MtnMike:
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Quoting Dan W:
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I will add, I think that

ONLY THOSE WITH THAT PARTICULAR DVD WITH THAT UPC SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO VOTE!

If you don't have it keep your comments to yourself.


I agree with you on that point but I don't see that its an enforcable rule.

Especially in those rare cases where you may be the only person who owns that particular one.


Yeah, but if you're the only person who has it, it won't show up in anyone else's profile.

Kevin
MtnMike
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OK...but then how will that one ever get locked?
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hydr0x
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Quoting MtnMike:
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OK...but then how will that one ever get locked?


never, but how  is that ever going to be a problem for someone? if noone has it, noone needs a good profile for it
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MtnMike
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That's quite true. Works for me.
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ajm
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Quoting Dan W:
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I will add, I think that

ONLY THOSE WITH THAT PARTICULAR DVD WITH THAT UPC SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO VOTE!

If you don't have it keep your comments to yourself.


Good idea but not easy to impliment.

How about, only people who have had accepted contributions for that profile get to vote. So the 1st person to submit it obviously gets a vote. As does anyone to submits it before its been accepted I guess. Then afterwards, those people can vote, and if your changes are accepted, you get added to the list.
abrg923
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That doesn't work...you're then limiting good contributors out, just because they weren't accepted the first time.
Ross

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InterVocative Software, LLC representativeKen Cole
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Registered: October 12, 1999
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Private message functionality has been added.  The new icon for PMs () appears in all forums, including the contribution notes forum.  Users will receive email notifications that they have a new private message, and there is a yellow banner at the top of the site when you have unread private messages. 

Your sent and received private messages are visible in the My Profiler page under (appropriately enough) 'Private Messages'.  In this list you may also see whether the recipient has read your latest message.

Our private message design differs from some forum systems in that each message is actually an entire thread that you may converse back and forth within.

Messages with no activity within 30 days are automatically removed.
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ajm
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Quoting abrg923:
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That doesn't work...you're then limiting good contributors out, just because they weren't accepted the first time.


not quite. everytime a contribution is accepted they get added to the list of approved submitters for that profile. So the list of contributors grows over time.

When a new profile gets submitted, I'm sure lots of people send in the same thing. So most new profiles would have quite a few people already on the list.

Also, as the IVS people get the last say anyway, and we are just voting to help, they can accept any contribution even from non-authorised submitters if they like the changes (or no one has voted on it).
EricvOmmen
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Registered: January 24, 2004
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Quoting Dan W:
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I will add, I think that

ONLY THOSE WITH THAT PARTICULAR DVD WITH THAT UPC SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO VOTE!

If you don't have it keep your comments to yourself.


As said before, that's unenforceable. You can't personally divide yourself up in packages, speed along the Internet, step out of the other one's PC and check their possessions.     

It is easily circumvented. Even if there was a check that the DVD must be in the Owned sub collection, not on Wish or Ordered. After all, just "Add" the title by name or UPC, and you're in on the vote. Whether you have it or actually not. And this already assumes you're voting from within DVD Profiler, not in your browser (or a browser subapplication started by profiler)..
Eric

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hal9g
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Quoting ajm:
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Quoting Dan W:
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I will add, I think that

ONLY THOSE WITH THAT PARTICULAR DVD WITH THAT UPC SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO VOTE!

If you don't have it keep your comments to yourself.


Good idea but not easy to impliment.

How about, only people who have had accepted contributions for that profile get to vote. So the 1st person to submit it obviously gets a vote. As does anyone to submits it before its been accepted I guess. Then afterwards, those people can vote, and if your changes are accepted, you get added to the list.


I'm not sure why this would be difficult to implement.  You would do the same thing that is done for contributions.  When you select the "vote" function, it automatically opens the voting for the DVD you have selected in your list!

I do not believe anyone should be allowed to vote on a profile that they don't have the DVD in their hand!

I also disagree that only people who have contributed to a profile should be allowed to vote.  On the rare occassion where I find a profile that doesn't need work, or only needs minor corrections, I don;t contribute.  That should not preclude me from voting.
Hal

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pauls42
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Registered: January 31, 2003
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As long as we are on the same page, 3 votes will not be a problem for us. All we need to do is make a thread calling attention to a title and we will get our 3 fairly quickly.


I was going to suggest that as soon as someone reliable like you or Skip etc contributes any profiles you announce the list of profiles on these forums and we all bundle in and lock it (before any plebs can muck it up).

Does the lock have to be on a profile version in the database or can it be applied to what is waiting to be checked etc?
Paul
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Pauls see the Froup W II Thread.
And feel free to email me for ANY files I have.
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abrg923
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Registered: October 12, 2004
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Quoting Ken Cole:
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Private message functionality has been added.  The new icon for PMs () appears in all forums, including the contribution notes forum.  Users will receive email notifications that they have a new private message, and there is a yellow banner at the top of the site when you have unread private messages. 

Your sent and received private messages are visible in the My Profiler page under (appropriately enough) 'Private Messages'.  In this list you may also see whether the recipient has read your latest message.

Our private message design differs from some forum systems in that each message is actually an entire thread that you may converse back and forth within.

Messages with no activity within 30 days are automatically removed.


Awesome...nice to see things are moving along quickly.
Ross

"All is silent in the halls of the dead. All is forgotten in the stone halls of the dead. Behold the stairways which stand in darkness; behold the rooms of ruin. These are the halls of the dead where the spiders spin and the great circuits fall quiet, one by one."
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EricvOmmen
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Registered: January 24, 2004
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...I was going to suggest that as soon as someone reliable like you or Skip etc contributes any profiles you announce the list of profiles on these forums and we all bundle in and lock it (before any plebs can muck it up).
...


However well intentioned, that would be just as foul as the abovementioned case where a idiot just tries the same with 3 bad buddies to secure a stupid upload (remember the porn problem!).

Now, that we have private messages since 50 minutes, did you notice the forum overview shows the currently signed in? Should give an idea on how soon the private message arrives.
Eric

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MarkEJHarrison
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Registered: December 20, 2001
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I'm confused.  Can someone provide a plausible situation where someone would be voting on a disc they don't have?  I have enough troubles trying to keep my own collection in order.  I'm certainly not going to start seeking out other profiles to give my $.02 on.

As for the three votes, I'll bow to Dan's experience at this point.  But I hope Ken programs it in such a way that it's easily modifiable if a problem arises.  Already we can see Paul suggesting that when someone "reliable" posts an update, we all jump on it a request a lock.  Who's to say we're the only ones to think of this?  It would be very easy for someone less "reliable" to have his friends doing the same thing.  Dan doesn't think this will happen, and I hope he's right.  But Paul's message makes me nervous (not offense intended Paul  ).
"the main database is protected by many fanatics who argue minutia over the rules hour after hour, day after day, year after year" - Cliff
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