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skipnet50
It all began with a mouse
| Registered: October 4, 2000 | | Posts: 33,731 |
| | Posted: | | | | True, Eric. But Mark's point is well taken, I see a lot of updates from users I have never even seen perusing the website. Therefore, they conceivably would NEVER receive their PM, and of course they also provide no email either, while still making contributions. So what Mark said about a time limit on receiving a PM is a good idea, or make email available.
As I have said repeatedl if a User chooses to not be hel accountable to the rest of the community then that User should NOT be allowed to Contribute EVER, or until he changes his mind.
I think all of us that are active in the forums have one objective an ACCURATE Main Db.
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hal9g
DVD Nut
| Registered: April 1, 2002 | | Posts: 4,650 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting MarkEJHarrison:
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I'm confused. Can someone provide a plausible situation where someone would be voting on a disc they don't have? I have enough troubles trying to keep my own collection in order. I'm certainly not going to start seeking out other profiles to give my $.02 on.
Based on some of the contributions I've seen it it quite clear that people make contributions on DVD's that they don;t physically own (excluding pre-orders), so it stands to reason that they'd vote on DVD's they don't have, too!!!  | | | Hal
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Snark
Obey the Fist!
| Registered: June 20, 2002 | | Posts: 1,257 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting EricvOmmen:
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Quoting pauls42:
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...I was going to suggest that as soon as someone reliable like you or Skip etc contributes any profiles you announce the list of profiles on these forums and we all bundle in and lock it (before any plebs can muck it up).
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However well intentioned, that would be just as foul as the abovementioned case where a idiot just tries the same with 3 bad buddies to secure a stupid upload (remember the porn problem!).
I agree 100%. We should not be blinding locking profiles based on faith in the original contributor. Everyone makes mistakes. I would sincerely hope that before someone votes for a lock, they would independently verify the data. The strength of the "vote" idea is that it provides for independent confirmation by multiple individuals. | | | | Last edited: by Snark |
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skipnet50
It all began with a mouse
| Registered: October 4, 2000 | | Posts: 33,731 |
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| Registered: October 12, 1999 | | Posts: 2,443 |
| | Posted: | | | | We plan to roll out voting without restricting who can vote on a particular title. However, we will be monitoring this situation closely and will take steps as needed.
One thing to keep in mind is that votes for locks are non-destructive. Therefore, if we identify an extreme case of a particular user who is abusing the voting system, we can remove that user's votes. |
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skipnet50
It all began with a mouse
| Registered: October 4, 2000 | | Posts: 33,731 |
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MarkEJHarrison
Out of ideas
| Registered: December 20, 2001 | | Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | | That puts my concerns to rest. Thanks Ken. | | | | "the main database is protected by many fanatics who argue minutia over the rules hour after hour, day after day, year after year" - Cliff |
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JAFO
DVD Addict
| Registered: October 14, 2002 | | Posts: 918 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole:
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We plan to roll out voting without restricting who can vote on a particular title. However, we will be monitoring this situation closely and will take steps as needed.
One thing to keep in mind is that votes for locks are non-destructive. Therefore, if we identify an extreme case of a particular user who is abusing the voting system, we can remove that user's votes.
Ken, in some manner, I think it would be approviate to give users who have the same disc in their collection (and possibly you can check to see how long they've had it, especially for minor changes to old profiles) more voting power than say someone who does not have the disc at all. This might be hard to implement, but would definitely provide better validation from people who actually own the disc. | | | JAFO
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DVDoug
As seen on Slashdot...
| Registered: December 8, 2001 | | Posts: 1,870 |
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m.cellophane
darkly dreaming
| Registered: February 9, 2002 | | Posts: 6,655 |
| | Posted: | | | | There is no way to verify over the internet that someone owns a particular DVD. Even if the voting mechanism scans my DVD-ROM drive for a Disc ID, it could be rented or borrowed. So this aspect of this thread has nowhere to go.
Except for pre-orders, I would think that the numbers of people who would submit field-lock votes for DVDs that they do not own is so small as to make this a non-issue unless proven otherwise. And Ken has announced a plan to void the votes of those who abuse the system in some fashion. | | | ...James 
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gardibolt
Digitally Obsessed
| Registered: June 29, 2001 | | Posts: 1,522 |
| | Posted: | | | | | One problem that occurs to me with locks by voting on field is easter eggs. Some of them can be pretty tough to find, and you might come up with another one after the disc is locked. How could that be dealt with? Or an uncredited cast member may surface after the cast is locked. | | | | "This movie has warped my fragile little mind." |
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skipnet50
It all began with a mouse
| Registered: October 4, 2000 | | Posts: 33,731 |
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Dan W
DVD_Mad_Man
| Registered: May 9, 2002 | | Posts: 4,669 |
| | Posted: | | | | I think that requiring a person own a particular DVD before they can vote on it is a reasonalbe idea. Proof of ownership isn't necessary. It is easy enough to see if it's in their collection. The "honor system" should be adequate.
I just think that voting on a DVD you don't own pretty much removes any credibility from anything you say. Certainly you can't have checked anything. | | | Dan W
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The Holts
God Bless and keep Cathy
| Registered: September 26, 2003 | | Posts: 1,482 |
| | Posted: | | | | Wowee, zowee!!!
I haven't been here much for the past 2 days and look what happened!
I have read through the posts here from both sides and I would just like to add a vote in favor of letting us keep certain parts of a profile locked if we don't want to submit that information.
There are several things I do differently, like titles in some cases, also I might add something to the overview that's not "kosher" from time to time, and so I never get to submit the good data I have unless I change it, then change it back. Not that that is so hard, it's just that it's hard to remember EVERY time which ones you have "personalized" in some really small way. And not often, but sometimes, I do have the better built profile than the current one or the one coming down the queue, especially since I fixed my actors db, at least all the links work correctly now. |
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Paul Hillenbrand
Active Member
| Registered: August 3, 2001 | | Posts: 437 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting The Holts:
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I would just like to add a vote in favor of letting us keep certain parts of a profile locked if we don't want to submit that information.
Would this be possible in version 2.3.1 or specifically for a later version?
Up to this point, I've been able to submit a complete proflle with the "Entire DVD" locked, but if "locked" can be equated with "Not to be Submitted", I'm all for that. 
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ruineddaydreams
this is my addiction...
| Registered: December 2, 2002 | | Posts: 1,914 |
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