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incorrect info on The Abyss (Locked)
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spaldingclan
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Someone incorrecty updated The Abyss to say that is was enhanced for Widescreen (anamorphic) TV's.
ADEKORSEY
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Originally posted by spaldingclan:
Someone incorrecty updated The Abyss to say that is was enhanced for Widescreen (anamorphic) TV's.


It's 16:9 enhanced, look closely at the bottom on the back. Alot of the 2.35:1 titles are actually matted for 16:9 ratio. Granted anamorphic would be better, but at least the TV decoder does not have to add scan lines to get the proper ratio.
nolesrule
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You seem to be confused on what 16:9 enhanced means. 16:9 enhanced = anamorphic widescreen. The movie was filmed in Super35 (I think) and matted to it's 2.35:1 aspect ratio, but that does not make it enhanced for widescreen TVs.

While I don't have the disc, every review or spec sheet online that I have ever read states that it is not anamorphic, which means it is not 16:9 enhanced, or enhanced for widescreen TVs.

Here are my sources:

The Digital Bits Review:
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/reviews/abyssse.html[/a]

DVDFile.com's Disc Specs
[a href="http://www.dvdfile.com/databases/discdatabase/HTMLDiscDBdetail.php?query=114"]http://www.dvdfile.com/databases/discdatabase/HTMLDiscDBdetail.php?query=114[/a]

Also, every review that is listed at DVDFile for this film specifically states it is non-anamorphic:
[a href="http://www.dvdfile.com/databases/reviewdatabase/HTMLSearchReviewDB.php?id=114&sort=site_name&numpage=50"]http://www.dvdfile.com/databases/reviewdatabase/HTMLSearchReviewDB.php?id=114&sort=site_name&numpage=50


Anyway, I just downloaded the title to check, and it has been fixed, so everything is ok.

nolesrule

[This message has been edited by nolesrule (edited November 16, 2000).]
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Originally posted by nolesrule:
You seem to be confused on what 16:9 enhanced means. 16:9 enhanced = anamorphic widescreen. The movie was filmed in Super35 (I think) and matted to it's 2.35:1 aspect ratio, but that does not make it enhanced for widescreen TVs.

While I don't have the disc, every review or spec sheet online that I have ever read states that it is not anamorphic, which means it is not 16:9 enhanced, or enhanced for widescreen TVs.

Here are my sources:

The Digital Bits Review:
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/reviews/abyssse.html[/a]

DVDFile.com's Disc Specs
[a href="http://www.dvdfile.com/databases/discdatabase/HTMLDiscDBdetail.php?query=114"]http://www.dvdfile.com/databases/discdatabase/HTMLDiscDBdetail.php?query=114[/a]

Also, every review that is listed at DVDFile for this film specifically states it is non-anamorphic:
[a href="http://www.dvdfile.com/databases/reviewdatabase/HTMLSearchReviewDB.php?id=114&sort=site_name&numpage=50"]http://www.dvdfile.com/databases/reviewdatabase/HTMLSearchReviewDB.php?  id=114&sort=site_name&numpage=50


Anyway, I just downloaded the title to check, and it has been fixed, so everything is ok.

nolesrule

[This message has been edited by nolesrule (edited November 16, 2000).]




If that's the case then there are alot of misidentified titles in the database. Including recent additions, "The Perfect Storm" being one of them, it's letterbox in a 16:9 ratio, letterbox is not anamorphic, which is what the Abyss is. Unless the cover is wrong, which has been known to happen.

I just checked the IMDB, that cover is wrong and it is not 16:9 enhanced, at least not the DVD, there was Japanese laser disc issued that was.


[This message has been edited by adekorsey (edited November 16, 2000).]
InterVocative Software, LLC representativeKen Cole
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The Abyss is not 16x9 enhanced, and The Perfect Storm is.  Letterbox is used inconsistently from site to site and from studio to studio, which is why we chose "Widescreen" in the program.  In short, just because a DVD says "Letterbox", it does not mean that it is not 16x9 enhanced.

Things to look for to indicate 16x9 enhanced are:
- Enhanced for 16X9 televisions
- Enhanced for widescreen tvs
- Anamorphic 16x9
- Anamorphic widescreen

There may be others, but that covers most.  Also, be advised that the cover is not 100% accurate all the time *sounds of surprise*.  There are some titles which are 16x9 enhanced which do not indicate they are so, and others which say they are but aren't.

I checked all the copies of the Abyss in the database and they are (at least now) all correctly set to not 16x9. 

- Ken

[This message has been edited by Ken Cole (edited November 16, 2000).]
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The best way to be sure about a disc is to set your DVD player to widescreen TV mode (16:9) and view a disc. If the image looks like it is stretched verticaly, then it is:

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- Enhanced for 16X9 televisions
- Enhanced for widescreen tvs
- Anamorphic 16x9
- Anamorphic widescreen



The same test can be performed on widescreen TVs. You just need to toggle the TV to it's 4:3 mode (where black/grey bars are shown on the sides in order to give the screen the same ratio as a standard TV.)

I used this trick to discover that a made-for-TV movie on DVD that I bought my wife (The Audrey Hepburn Story)was indeed anamorphic. It was on the disc in widescreen/letterbox, which means what was originally shown on TV was P&Sd. Anyway, the box did not say anything about the movie being 16:9 enhanced.

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If that's the case then there are alot of misidentified titles in the database. Including recent additions, "The Perfect Storm" being one of them, it's letterbox in a 16:9 ratio, letterbox is not anamorphic, which is what the Abyss is. Unless the cover is wrong, which has been known to happen.



One more thing. The 16x9 ratio actually translates to 1.78:1. So I would not use the term 16x9 with any movie filmed in any other ratio unless you are referring to it as being "16x9 anamorphic" or "enhanced for 16x9 TVs".  2.35 and 1.78 are huge differences (2.35 in whole numbers would be 47x20).

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