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DVDoug As seen on Slashdot...
Registered: December 8, 2001 | Posts: 1,870 |
| Posted: | | | | but.... a cardboard cover/sleeve is not a case!
To my mind a extra cardboard cover is just a piece of artwork. It doesn't help to keep the discs secure.
So for Lion King etc, Keep Case is correct I would have thought.
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Ace_of_Sevens You may have already won
Registered: December 24, 2002 | Posts: 2,751 |
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Dan W DVD_Mad_Man
Registered: May 9, 2002 | Posts: 4,669 |
| Posted: | | | | I see your point and agree. A slip-cover sleeve shouldn't be considered a case. Except in the event of a box set like "The IMAX Space Collection" 94051-80252 or those similar. The sleeve holds 5 DVDs that are in their own snappers. In those instances the sleeve should be listed as a custom case. With that, what do you think should be done with that Velcro Journal Cover thing that came on "Dances With Wolves" 27616-88059? Paper or not, the velcro strap and the fold out front makes it more than just a sleeve.
BTW, I quickly removed mine and it's stored with my Tins. It looks kinda interesting though. It's a shame it wasn't made of something more substantial.
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Maggi Rosebud
Registered: December 26, 2000 | Posts: 295 |
| Posted: | | | | This is one of the best tread i´ve seen here in these forums. We finally have it down visual what is what in the cover world. Thanx Dan. This should be put in the Guidelines. I have to disagree on the Dances with wolves slipcover. For me it´s simply a paper cover on a Keep case.
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DVDoug As seen on Slashdot...
Registered: December 8, 2001 | Posts: 1,870 |
| Posted: | | | | Regarding the IMAX thing - going from what you said it's actually more of a box-set's box than just a sleeve or a case.
I don't know about the Dances with Wolves - is that like the Lion King's sleeve? If it is, then I would still consider it not part of the case, even though it does 'open-out'.
How about this - sometimes having a definition is helpful!
'A case is something with six (6) sides.'
So Tins would count (T2, Band of Brothers, as would the lumps of plastic we get with the Star Trek releases in the UK) even though in all 3 cases, there is a keep case or digipak inside.
Cardboard covers that hold multiple-amarays, or a digipak (e.g. Alias, ER) don't make it custom case, since the outer cardboard will normally only have 4 or 5 sides.
Opinions?
[ December 12, 2003: Message edited by: dougwright ] | | | Doug
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Registered: June 2, 2004 | Posts: 4,554 |
| Posted: | | | | T2 extreme kinda breaks that rule but I still consider that a custom case... It's like the lion king but in metal. The only cover I remember that wouldn't fit that custom definition is the X-men cardboard that only covers half the keep case... but even if they consider it keep case the scans SHOULD be of the whole ORIGINAL off-the-shelf package. |
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Dan W DVD_Mad_Man
Registered: May 9, 2002 | Posts: 4,669 |
| Posted: | | | | Quote:
Originally posted by dougwright: Regarding the IMAX thing - going from what you said it's actually more of a box-set's box than just a sleeve or a case. . . . . . . Cardboard covers that hold multiple-amarays, or a digipak (e.g. Alias, ER) don't make it custom case, since the outer cardboard will normally only have 4 or 5 sides.
I was just trying to say that in the event of a "box set box", as you put it, we need to identify it as custom. Otherwise we would have no case listed for these sets. Each DVD in the "IMAX" set has it's own case and each one should be listed as the case that it is in but the case (or sleeve) on the set is clearly not a "Snapper". The same is true of the "Superman" box set.
The same type of "box" is used to cover the "X Men Collection" and "Alien Quadrilogy" sets but they have internal "Hubs" that are not attached. These two should be listed as Hubs but "The IMAX Space Collection" and "Superman" "sets" (not the individually packaged DVDs) should be listed as having a "Custom" case because each film is in it's own individual "Snapper" case. Another example would be the "Indiana Jones" set with it's own individual "Keep Cases" for each disc.
So, with the "X Men" and "Alien Quadrilogy" sets you would ignore the sleeve or "box" and list them as "Hubs" but the IMAX, Superman and Indiana Jones sets would be called custom. The DVDs in individual cases get listed as the case they are in because most of the time they are individually available.
Maybe I need to add another pic to include "Sleeve" and request the case type be added, then again, maybe not because it fits under custom anyway and we all know what a "Sleeve" looks like.
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Dan W DVD_Mad_Man
Registered: May 9, 2002 | Posts: 4,669 |
| Posted: | | | | I just updated the "Drawer" image. I added closed and open views. I finally picked one up. It's easy to see why the company that did this is no longer around. | | | Dan W
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littlefuzzy ooo, shiny!!
Registered: October 3, 2001 | Posts: 281 |
| Posted: | | | | My feeling is that "Case" should be in reference to what is actually holding the disc(s) as opposed to anything that came packaged around the case. The Disney tins, for example, would be Keep Cases, since many people remove them from the tins, and store them with other keep cases. The same would go with most of the Anchor Bay Limited Edition Tins, they have CD-style Jewel Cases inside of the tin.
If something is attached to the outer packaging, then that should be counted for the case description, as in Band of Brothers (a "custom" case.) | | | I've got HUGE... tracts of land! |
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Dan W DVD_Mad_Man
Registered: May 9, 2002 | Posts: 4,669 |
| Posted: | | | | duplicate post
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Dan W DVD_Mad_Man
Registered: May 9, 2002 | Posts: 4,669 |
| Posted: | | | | littlefuzzy,
I just want to make sure I'm understanding you correctly. If you mean Jewel Case like the example in the first post in this thread then I might agree but if you mean a cd-style Jewel Case like the one below I will have to disagree.
Jewel (cd-style) Front ________________________________ -------- Back
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Ace_of_Sevens You may have already won
Registered: December 24, 2002 | Posts: 2,751 |
| Posted: | | | | I agree with Dan W here. In situations like the Anchor Bay tins, where the outer tin is much larger than the inner case and not just a cover for it, I think it should be custom. | | | Do you like commentaries? |
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Dan W DVD_Mad_Man
Registered: May 9, 2002 | Posts: 4,669 |
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Registered: June 2, 2004 | Posts: 4,554 |
| Posted: | | | | Quote:
Originally posted by Dan W: I just updated the "Drawer" image. I added closed and open views. I finally picked one up. It's easy to see why the company that did this is no longer around.
Today's (Jan 13) USA Today has an ad for Season One of HBO's "Curb Your Enthusiasm" which was released today It looks like it's a "drawer"-type of package.  |
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Picard1954 It's dark out there!
Registered: November 13, 2003 | Posts: 2,269 |
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Originally posted by Dan W: Here it is folks! A list of CASE TYPES with an image so you can tell what they are.
This was simply excellent. Another vote for inclusion into the contribution guidelines. The contribution guidelines could benefit greatly by adding some visuals to almost every step/point. |
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Dan W DVD_Mad_Man
Registered: May 9, 2002 | Posts: 4,669 |
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Originally posted by kdh1949: Today's (Jan 13) USA Today has an ad for Season One of HBO's "Curb Your Enthusiasm" which was released today It looks like it's a "drawer"-type of package. 
OH NO!!! Just when you thought things were looking up something like this comes along. I guess they had some left over? | | | Dan W
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