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Unicus69
Alien with an attitude
| Registered: May 8, 2001 | | Posts: 3,050 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting gardibolt:
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I dunno, voting on URLs supplied by users has been quite useful in combating horrifically bad profiles that might not otherwise garner many votes.
This might be true, but how is this any different than creating multiple accounts to pad the vote your way?
Instead of creating multiple accounts, which is now against the rules, they get a few of their buddies to vote on the link provided instead.
If it is allowed for combating bad profiles it can be abused to contribute them as well. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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Unicus69
Alien with an attitude
| Registered: May 8, 2001 | | Posts: 3,050 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting KDH1949:
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We can still vote on Wishlist titles, however. They show up in our Database listing even though we don't own them.
I am on the fence with this one....if we are to assume that the purpose of voting is to ensure that good data gets passed through, how can someone who doesn't own the disc do that? If they don't own it, they are voting 'blind'.
The reason I am on the fence is that most people vote 'blind' anyway. Most people look for obvious mistakes and then base their 'diligence' on who the contributor is and how good the notes were.
Most people don't throw the disc in and verify every little change...so, still on the fence here. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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MarkEJHarrison
Out of ideas
| Registered: December 20, 2001 | | Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69:
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This might be true, but how is this any different than creating multiple accounts to pad the vote your way?
Well, the obvious answer is one person casting many votes vs. multiple people casting one vote each. But I'm guessing that's not what you're getting at. 
The situation of getting friends to vote on your bad data won't be solved by the email issue. It can still be done and will have to be dealt with on a case-by-case basis. That said, there's not much you can do about it. Ken can only stop it from happening on these forums and has no control over what happens outside here. And do you honestly think anyone here is persuasive enough to get a group of people to form a voting block to push bad data through? 
If someone else gets their dad, sister, people on other forums, etc. to vote on their bad submissions, there's nothing we can do about it.
As for the issue of voting on titles in your wishlist, you can recognize bad titles, genres (if you're familiar with the movie), production year and many other pieces of bad data. I personally vote Neutral on all wishlist items, but that's just me. I also blindly accept updates on wishlist items. But that doesn't mean you can't verify some of the data without owning it. | | | | "the main database is protected by many fanatics who argue minutia over the rules hour after hour, day after day, year after year" - Cliff |
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Unicus69
Alien with an attitude
| Registered: May 8, 2001 | | Posts: 3,050 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting MarkEJHarrison:
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As for the issue of voting on titles in your wishlist, you can recognize bad titles, genres (if you're familiar with the movie), production year and many other pieces of bad data. I personally vote Neutral on all wishlist items, but that's just me. I also blindly accept updates on wishlist items. But that doesn't mean you can't verify some of the data without owning it.
Agreed, which is why I am still on the fence about it.... | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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Krikarian
nice choppers...
| Registered: November 3, 2002 | | Posts: 1,556 |
| | Posted: | | | | okay, call me stupid...others have...  , but what constitutes a free email address? i work for a university and my personal address is through their isp and don't cost me no dimes...
more confused than usual...
krik  | | | "Vampirism is not a disease, Julia. Vampires are the living dead."
My Collection |
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DVDoug
As seen on Slashdot...
| Registered: December 8, 2001 | | Posts: 1,870 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Krikarian:
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okay, call me stupid...others have... , but what constitutes a free email address? i work for a university and my personal address is through their isp and don't cost me no dimes...
more confused than usual...
krik
An address from a provider that will provide email to anyone who asks, free of charge.
A university only issues addresses to (ex-)students and staff - not random members of the public, so you are ok. | | | Doug
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skipnet50
It all began with a mouse
| Registered: October 4, 2000 | | Posts: 33,731 |
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Krikarian
nice choppers...
| Registered: November 3, 2002 | | Posts: 1,556 |
| | Posted: | | | | thanks, gents. 
of course, then i saw the posting about email addresses just above this one...some day i'll learn to read from the top instead of the center of the screen... 
but hey, i figured out the verification part really easily...
krik | | | "Vampirism is not a disease, Julia. Vampires are the living dead."
My Collection |
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MarkEJHarrison
Out of ideas
| Registered: December 20, 2001 | | Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Krikarian:
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okay, call me stupid...
You're stupid. | | | | "the main database is protected by many fanatics who argue minutia over the rules hour after hour, day after day, year after year" - Cliff |
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Krikarian
nice choppers...
| Registered: November 3, 2002 | | Posts: 1,556 |
| | Posted: | | | | can't fault a person for following orders...
now, see that bridge...... | | | "Vampirism is not a disease, Julia. Vampires are the living dead."
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 | Ken Cole | | Administrator |
| Registered: October 12, 1999 | | Posts: 2,443 |
| | Posted: | | | | We've today performed the aforementioned wipe of lock votes created from accounts which are currently ineligible to vote.
In addition, we've permanently banned 12 accounts from contribution and voting due to vote stuffing. As part of the ban operation, all votes and locks from those accounts are automatically cleared. |
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Jykke
| Registered: June 26, 2004 | | Posts: 584 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole:
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We've today performed the aforementioned wipe of lock votes created from accounts which are currently ineligible to vote.
In addition, we've permanently banned 12 accounts from contribution and voting due to vote stuffing. As part of the ban operation, all votes and locks from those accounts are automatically cleared.
So this is final farewell to Picard99 and his alter-egos. Now we can fix the damages. Thanks Ken!! |
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Takaikkuna
Junior Member
| Registered: June 30, 2003 | | Posts: 343 |
| | Posted: | | | | Is it Picard99 who has locked parts of Cast Away (Finnish profile 667068-820324). At least overview in wrong language.
I cancelled my contribution in which I was going to add crew taken from movie end credits. Because I could not correct all parts of profile, I decided to contribute nothing.
"I, Robot" has wrong locks too. For examble disc information is locked although there is no disc info at all!
Maybe we should have a possibility to vote for unlock. | | | | Last edited: by Takaikkuna |
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Spartacus
| Registered: February 16, 2000 | | Posts: 1,296 |
| | Posted: | | | | Interesting... Trinitron_FX68, HardSpy and J_Paige have voted NO for my contributions both Superman II & Superman III Finnish releases. With no explanation what's wrong. I'm pretty sure they are all one person, previously known as Picard99 plus some other aliases. Guess who was responsible earlier versions of those releases in the database? Right, it was our very good friend Picard99...
Could someone anyway check if there really is something wrong with those contributions:
http://www.intervocative.com/Forums.aspx?task=contributionnotes&type=DVD&ProfileUPC=416548805313.16
http://www.intervocative.com/Forums.aspx?task=contributionnotes&type=DVD&ProfileUPC=416548805214.16 | | | | Last edited: by Spartacus |
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Lithurge
| Registered: January 2, 2002 | | Posts: 4,125 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Spartacus:
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Could someone anyway check if there really is something wrong with those contributions:
http://www.intervocative.com/Forums.aspx?task=contributionnotes&type=DVD&ProfileUPC=416548805313.16
http://www.intervocative.com/Forums.aspx?task=contributionnotes&type=DVD&ProfileUPC=416548805214.16
Source is not given but it looks to me as though the original source (whether you used it or copied them from another profile) for Superman II was IMDB. Tom Mankiewiczis not credited in the actual film credits. | | | Nick
Not to understand a man's purpose, does not make him confused. |
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Spartacus
| Registered: February 16, 2000 | | Posts: 1,296 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Lithurge:
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Source is not given but it looks to me as though the original source (whether you used it or copied them from another profile) for Superman II was IMDB. Tom Mankiewiczis not credited in the actual film credits.
Might be, I took credits from some another profile. But on the other hand, TM is participating in this movie. As far as I remember Richard Donner wasn't credited in the film credits, but everyone knows that he directed quite many scenes in the movie before the producers fired him. So I guess he should be removed also from the profile leaving only Richard Lester as director?
I still wonder why our "friend-with-four-names" couldn't share that information and what might be the real reason for him trying to block that contribution. Anyway, I might check those credits later when I have some free time and possibly contribute them again.
Thanks for your response. | | | | Last edited: by Spartacus |
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